Reverse image search yielded a bunch of tumblr blogs and nothing else so I don’t know the artist unfortunately. If anyone does I’ll add it to the post

  • FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineEnglish
    0·
    8 days ago

    Ah yeah like that one time when the people they all voted to take away their own rights, yeah, we all remember that. /s

    The closest thing to what you’re talking about was the rise of Nazi Germany, which, and this is true, was a fascism resulting of a flawed democracy.

    • BillyClark@piefed.socialEnglish
      0·
      8 days ago

      American slaves came from outside America. Places like Africa. Africans don’t get to vote in America.

      • FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineEnglish
        0·
        8 days ago

        First of all, the USA is not a perfect ideal democracy. It’s actually really low on the index.

        “Africans don’t get to vote in America.”

        image

        Fucking Tankies must hear the wildest propaganda and really believe it. Are you from North Korea, mate?

        • Otter@lemmy.caM
          2·
          1 day ago

          Hi @FiniteBanjo@feddit.online, would you mind editing this comment to point out that you are referring to African Americans? I think a chain of midunderstandings in this thread are causing people to think your comment was meant to be racist. Looking through your posting history, I don’t think that was your intent.

          For anyone else that is coming across this thread, here is my interpretation of what happened:

          • Some users are seeing this post as it was originally intended, which is that current laws are not necessarily a good reflection of a fair/just/ethical society. Others are speaking to the idealized side, where an ideal system can slowly align the legal system to what the community sees as ethical. I think those two different views led to the argument in this thread, where multiple people were arguing against a position that the other person was not actually putting forward.
          • I think BillyClark came at this post arguing for the first position, and misunderstood your comment to suggest that the current system is just (which you didn’t intend). Meanwhile, I see that FiniteBanjo was engaged with users that argued against voting in this weeks midterm election (or voting third party), and I think FiniteBanjo misunderstood BillyClark’s position thinking it was against voting, and thus grouped them in with “tankies”
          • With these two comments in particular, BillyClark was referring to how the enslaved population in the US couldn’t participate in the democratic process (and thus couldn’t influence the legal system), but they used present tense (“don’t get to vote” vs “didn’t get to vote”) while discussing slavery.
          • When FiniteBanjo then quoted that part of the comment and linked to the Obama’s, it looked like they were calling the Obama’s as “Africans” (rather than the intended rebuttal of “African Americans can indeed vote”). I don’t think FiniteBanjo meant it that way based on the posting history (source 1 source 2)
          • FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            If some people can somehow mental gymnastics their way from XiLee talking about US Politics and saying “Africans don’t vote” to literal Africans living in Africa not having the ability to vote in the USA (which would still be wrong even if that were the case, any naturalized citizen can vote regardless of birth location) then I don’t think any amount of explaining will help that person. That person is likely some Tankie’s alt account, I can hardly believe such a moron could exist, it takes powerful willful ignorance to make that leap. It’s a complete nonsequitur.

          • dohpaz42@lemmy.worldMEnglish
            1·
            8 days ago

            If you abuse the reporting feature one more time, you’re out of here.

            Calling you a tankie is not racism. If you don’t know what racism is: look. it. up.

            • BillyClark@piefed.socialEnglish
              21·
              7 days ago

              I thought when I explained the problem, you’d remove the racist comment the next time you logged on, and probably give FiniteBanjo some penalty similar to the one I was threatened with.

              I considered reporting it again with more details so that maybe another mod would remove it, but since I was threatened about that, I’m reluctant to do so.

              I reported it because that comment goes against the rules of the entire platform, and even if my report was initially misunderstood, I don’t think we should leave racist comments up.

              Just to recap the racism, I said that Africans couldn’t vote in America and that’s why democracy wouldn’t keep them from being enslaved, and FiniteBanjo responded with a picture of the Obamas, saying that they were Africans voting in America. There’s no way that they thought the subject was African Americans. It was African slaves. And they posted a picture of a person who was repeatedly falsely accused of being born in Africa. It’s blatant racism.

                • BillyClark@piefed.socialEnglish
                  11·
                  1 day ago

                  I’ll be blocking you after I submit this comment, so I don’t know for sure if you’ll see it, but I think that you should know that I’ve had a long discussion with the moderators of this community in the past few days, and they’re good people. Please try to remain calm while you discuss the moderation of this community.

            • Soupbreaker@lemmy.worldEnglish
              01·
              8 days ago

              The comment they reported is blatantly racist. It doesn’t have anything to do with the commenter (quite disingenuously, imo) calling them a tankie. I struggle to understand how you interpreted this as abuse of the report feature.

            • BillyClark@piefed.socialEnglish
              01·
              8 days ago

              You don’t think using a picture of the Obamas as an example of “Africans” voting in America is racist??? They aren’t Africans. They are Americans with African heritage, sometimes called African Americans, but never just “Africans.”

              That’s the racism part, not the tankie part.

              Edit: Not to mention the whole birther movement, which is inherently racist, and which anybody would strongly suspect is the reason he picked Obama instead of anybody else.