• cannedtuna@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    9 days ago

    I mean sure, ignore the protests from earlier this year where millions turned out across the nation, but sure…

    • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
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      9 days ago

      And did what? They didn’t disrupt anything. Parades on weekends are good for raising awareness, I’m not going to say they are useless. But they are fundamentally different from the other examples given.

      • kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        Gotten shot and killed by lowest-bidder wannabe cops, who faced zero consequences. And our wannabe dictator said there would be no consequences for killing protesters. The reality is living conditions aren’t bad enough yet for most people to be willing to risk that.

        So as it turns out, violence and fear tactics do work…

        • PlasticExistence@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          9 days ago

          I’ve often been surprised at how living in America is perceived by the world. I’ve met a lot of people from all over the world, and while some have actually spent enough time here to understand the good and the bad. The rest who have not seem to believe in the shiny veneer that we export in our movies and television.

          We are absolute wage slaves here. We are one missed paycheck from homelessness. But sure, blame the slaves for not overthrowing their owners.

          • PlaidBaron@lemmy.world
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            9 days ago

            I dont understand the logic though so please help me here. I have lived in the US and do have a good idea of how shitty things are (or were even back then). Things will not improve by inaction and are objectively getting worse. So yes, you risk a lot by acting but if you dont your life will continue to get worse and you’ll end up homeless anyway. Or worse.

            No one is coming to save you. You live in the most powerful country in the world. Nobody is going to come in and liberate you. Your only option is to save yourself.

            Nobody is claiming it will be easy, simple, or clean. But what other option is left? This is why the rest of us are baffled. Especially since the US has built up the reputation of having a rebellious spirit. Where is that spirit now?

            • PlasticExistence@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              9 days ago

              I can make this simple: would you be the first to step in front of the firing squad when you have no idea if others will join you in rushing it?

              We are not a united people here.

              • PlaidBaron@lemmy.world
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                9 days ago

                I know that. No one is saying you as an individual need to do this right now. We are saying you need to organize. I think this is a cultural misunderstanding.

                When I say ‘you’ I am not referring to an individual. Im referring to you as a people. Maybe that misunderstanding is evidence of the hyper individualism your country has subtly snuck into your lives that prevents you (again a collective you) from doing so.

                • PlasticExistence@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  9 days ago

                  What did you think I meant by, “we are not a united people”?

                  You can’t organize peace with people who idealize a fascist society

    • UnequalExchange@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago

      …and it acheived fucking nothing haha

      Once again proving that non-violent resistance aint shit. The Algerians, Cubans , Koreans , Burkinabe, and Vietnamese send their regards

      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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        7 days ago

        The Cubans are escaping to Florida instead of revolting, Korea has had multiple visibly corrupt presidents and I still haven’t heard of violent protests… Not sure those are the best examples.

        • UnequalExchange@lemmy.world
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          7 days ago

          …Ah Yup yup yup every excuse in the book.

          Instead of talking about Cubans from 1959 …you talk about Cubans today. Bro IDGAF abou Cubans today. Bro Cuba is no longer a socialist state. Have you seen the rrforms? Have you seen the oil embargos effects on Cuba since 2 years ago up until today? Clearly you havent so why am I even asking?

          Instead of talking about Koreans from 1910-53 …you talk about SOUTH KOREA TODAY …when Im talking ALL of the Korean Penninsula from decades ago.

          BUT Yup yup yup! Keep up the excuses . Never use historicals examples to give you directions as to what the americams should do today YUP YUP YUP.

          • Martti@suppo.fi
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            7 days ago

            As if these regimes were not totalitarian from beginning and did not serve imperialist interests of soviet pseudosocialism. Protecting the spirit of revolution to eventually become corpocracy that is even stronger capitalist than the capitalist-democratic counterparts.