I’d say “Doomer” is the perfect term to describe the assholes who think “Politics don’t affect me personally, so why should I even consider?” or “Both sides are crap, choosing is just chickening out”.

You know the kind of pessimistic irascible assholes you find on Twitter or 4Chan or even Kiwi Farms who doesn’t care what you want to express online.

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    what would be the non-woke and non-antiwoke thing then? woke has been bastardized by conservatives to hell as they see something not racist or bigoted is not “white, male, straight, patriarchy”. woke was originally use by african americans to have “Waken up”. being neutral isnt exactly good either.

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    Depending on where on the bell-curve you perceive “woke” and “anti-woke”, you could go from absolute pot stirrer to (more like where I place them, seeing both extremes as not affecting me at all… I don’t even consider these terms.) Level headed, middle of the road.

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    Probably some flavour of anti-woke.

    You described people who are anti-woke and the question is whether they’re also anti-anti-woke.

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    To have a dispassionate conversation about it - they aren’t perfect antonyms. The woke movement and the antiwoke movement don’t oppose precisely the same things and neither of them have a definitive definition any longer, mostly due to the overuse of the terms over a long time.

    For example people will use anti-woke unironically but you rarely see anyone use woke genuinely and with passion any more. Infact anyone who does would seem dated and ridiculous now to seriously request without irony to consider being woke.

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    Curmudgeon, perhaps. Or at least curmudgeonly.

    Or choose from something here: https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/curmudgeon

    Among those, “crank” stands out. This is usually someone who holds a (often provably) wrong, unconventional or unpopular opinion and insists that their way is the right way and that everyone else is wrong.

    Cranks can be right, which a crank will hold onto dearly and use in their arguments, even if the considerable majority of cranks turn out to have been wrong.

    On the other hand, cranks tend to beat their metaphorical drum a lot more than someone who simply refuses to pick a side and keeps their trap shut.