• insanemantis@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    General Grievous is more like one of those pre-1948 Zionist terrorist leaders fighting the U.S.

    On the outside it looks like he’s overthrowing the corrupt institution, but really he’s working for its secret government so that he can contribute to its total compromise and make it even more corrupt

    If Grievous really functioned as a meaningful freedom fighter who sought to dismantle the oppression of governments, then he’d never target the vulnerable at the advantage of the Sith

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    uggghhhh, tell me you have no media literacy without telling me you have no media literacy.

    For the last time, Grievous was a fascist trying to dismantle a neoliberal democracy that was already decaying from the inside. Leia was a liberal trying to work inside the fascist regime to reinstall a neoliberal democracy.

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      Grevious yes, but there is a point to be made that some rebels against the republic were fighting against an overstepping republic for independence without grasping their movement was being co-opted by the Sith.

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        The intended parallel was the decay of democracy by the united effort of corporate interests. The Banking Clan, the Techno Union, the Commerce Guild, the Trade Federation, they all controlled a tremendous economic chunk of the Republic. The entire Separatist movement was orchestrated by the Sith, from the death of Master Syfo-Dias to the Hyperspace War that started the trade route taxes.

        The entire thing was built by the Sith from day one to turn the Republic into the Empire.

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      13 hours ago

      Neoliberal isn’t a useful term here, but if you were going to use it you should call Grievous a technofeudalist.

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        If they were slaves rather than employees who could simply quit their jobs, I’d be more willing to hear your argument

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          My comment was mostly a joke to reference the scene from Clerks, but in all honesty, based on Andor, I do think it’s likely that prison/slave labor was used in the creation of both Death Stars.

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      Also, while I haven’t seem much of the animated series, I’m pretty sure Grevious knew he was fighting FOR the corruptor of the corrupt government.

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          I thought Grievous was doing to get revenge on the Jedi for slaughtering his people on behalf of a corrupt republic member.

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            A lot of them seemed more like leaders of various independentist movements who allied with others without really grasping the overarching political project.

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              All of them quite intended to make multiple genocides…

              You are correct that they weren’t told the plan. But the plan wasn’t necessary for the “are we the baddies?” moment.

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      16 hours ago

      pretty sure her dad blew up an entire planet

      and don’t foget the kid murdering

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    19 hours ago

    Really it came down to their hobbies. Her hair was great and his collection was built on murder.

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      I thought her hobby was getting stuck in washing machines? Isn’t that why everybody says Empire is the best?