Not too long ago I learned that you’re not supposed to rinse your mouth out after brushing your teeth, but instead just spit out the toothpaste. Apparently you’re supposed to leave a coating of it on your teeth for it to work properly.
My dental hygienist recently said that if you vomit you’re not supposed to brush your teeth right away. You’re supposed to rinse your mouth out with water to balance the pH levels and after a little while then you can brush.
Where did you learn this? I’ve never heard this recommendation before and it sounds pretty out there.
Edit: it turns out that apparently both the American Dental Association and the National Health Service of the UK recommend not rinsing immediately after brushing. Huh, TIL.
I’ve updated my comment. I wouldn’t have intuitively thought about this because why would I think that it would take time for Fluoride to take effect, or that whatever is left after rinsing wouldn’t do the job? Thanks.
I have the same logic about flossing personally, but I’ve asked my dentist/dental hygenist multiple times and they’ve all said the order for flossing doesn’t matter.
it’s more about practicalilty. when in flossing, stuff might get loosened but still be partially stuck in my wire, or just stick to be back of my teeth
if I floss first, I can just go straight to brushing and not have to get that little piece unstuck separately
this really helps to optimize my time efficiency in my life, allowing me precious more seconds to doomscroll
My dentist has also said the order doesn’t matter. My guess is that the benefits of flossing at all outweigh any small benefits from doing it in a specific order. I’m also assuming most dentists are just happy if you floss and don’t want to nitpick on technique unless it’s causing issues.
The message should not be that more fluoride is always better. You will probably not damage yourself by soaking your teeth in toothpaste for an hour every day, but what do I know? At some point there is a limit.
The fluoride concentration in toothpaste is not high enough to cause toxicity if not rinsed out. Don’t eat mouthfuls of it, but the small amount left after brushing is beneficial for enamel. Ask literally any qualified dentist. Literally a couple weeks back, my dentist suggested that I can put a little dab on a tender spot of my tooth after brushing before going to sleep to target it.
Are you imagining that toothpaste and municipal water supplies contain hydrofluoric acid? That’s like saying hydrogen peroxide, H2O2, contains water, H2O.
And what the hell is fluoride jelly and why do you need it?
Fluoride jelly is the stuff the dentist puts on your teeth. You can buy similar stuff from the pharmacy. I don’t know what the exact name is in English.
Read the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article. I’m not gonna explain it to you, unless you didn’t have any chemistry in high school.
Edit: actually, Wikipedia has better articles about this. Read the “overdose” section in this one instead. It’s pretty clear I believe.
I think you need to retake chemistry then, right now you’re the one spreading misinformation. The Wikipedia article is about a completely unrelated compound.
Although fluoride is safe for dental health at low concentrations,[1] sustained consumption of large amounts of soluble fluoride salts is dangerous
Literally your link. I’m in my late 30s. I’ve only lived in places with Fluoride in the water my entire life, and both my parents and I have chosen to have regular fluoride treatments and fluoride toothpaste. I don’t need advice from Lemmy, if what you were saying were true I’d be dead decades ago.
As the other person said, everything will kill you if you have too much of it. Water can kill you if you drink too much. Either you believe some very incorrect things, or you’re a troll who is doing pretty well here getting us riled up.
flouride treatment? it was like 10-15m. then they took out the trays and you rinsed your mouth out. and they told you to not eat anything for 20m so the flouride had more time to absorb, because any friction on your teeth would scrap it off.
toothpaste also has fluoride and the idea is the same.
Not too long ago I learned that you’re not supposed to rinse your mouth out after brushing your teeth, but instead just spit out the toothpaste. Apparently you’re supposed to leave a coating of it on your teeth for it to work properly.
My dental hygienist recently said that if you vomit you’re not supposed to brush your teeth right away. You’re supposed to rinse your mouth out with water to balance the pH levels and after a little while then you can brush.
Still plenty of toothpastes without fluoride.
Where did you learn this? I’ve never heard this recommendation before and it sounds pretty out there.
Edit: it turns out that apparently both the American Dental Association and the National Health Service of the UK recommend not rinsing immediately after brushing. Huh, TIL.
I heard it straight from my Dentist (in Canada) just this last month. I was also blown away, been rinsing for decades…
Same here. I’m glad your dentist told you though.
I noticed a big decrease in plaque after I stopped rinsing.
That would be a great result that I look forward to.
I’m not them, but I first heard this in one of the early episodes of A Problem Squared podcast. Edutainment, baby!
The flouride in toothpaste doesn’t work if you rinse it off immediately. You should not eat or drink for at least 30 minutes after brushing.
Got it, thanks, I’ve updated my comment.
It makes sense if you think about it. The flouride needs to rest on your teeth to harden them properly.
I’ve updated my comment. I wouldn’t have intuitively thought about this because why would I think that it would take time for Fluoride to take effect, or that whatever is left after rinsing wouldn’t do the job? Thanks.
Toothpaste instructions often tell you to rinse with a small amount of water, but dentists here always say not to.
And floss before brushing, so you can rinse goop out before the toothpaste goes in.
I have the same logic about flossing personally, but I’ve asked my dentist/dental hygenist multiple times and they’ve all said the order for flossing doesn’t matter.
it’s more about practicalilty. when in flossing, stuff might get loosened but still be partially stuck in my wire, or just stick to be back of my teeth
if I floss first, I can just go straight to brushing and not have to get that little piece unstuck separately
this really helps to optimize my time efficiency in my life, allowing me precious more seconds to doomscroll
My dentist has also said the order doesn’t matter. My guess is that the benefits of flossing at all outweigh any small benefits from doing it in a specific order. I’m also assuming most dentists are just happy if you floss and don’t want to nitpick on technique unless it’s causing issues.
I’m flabbergasted
I wouldn’t trust healthcare advice from a random Lemmy user. Also given that an overdose of fluoride damages your bones.
Edit: Since the downvotes indicate disbelief, check for example Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity
The message should not be that more fluoride is always better. You will probably not damage yourself by soaking your teeth in toothpaste for an hour every day, but what do I know? At some point there is a limit.
The fluoride concentration in toothpaste is not high enough to cause toxicity if not rinsed out. Don’t eat mouthfuls of it, but the small amount left after brushing is beneficial for enamel. Ask literally any qualified dentist. Literally a couple weeks back, my dentist suggested that I can put a little dab on a tender spot of my tooth after brushing before going to sleep to target it.
You have been misinformed about fluoride in toothpaste and water. Please take the time to inform yourself and trust in facts, not propaganda.
Not meaning any disrespect or negativity towards you, just a heads up.
~~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluoric_acid?wprov=sfla1~~
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity
Also, my fluoride jelly says to use it once a week at most and never more than 5 minutes in one go. I wonder why.
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Maybe because it is far more concentrated than the fluoride in toothpaste or water.
You know, like the difference in alcohol between a 4% alcohol beer and 95% alcohol Everclear
Are you imagining that toothpaste and municipal water supplies contain hydrofluoric acid? That’s like saying hydrogen peroxide, H2O2, contains water, H2O.
And what the hell is fluoride jelly and why do you need it?
Fluoride jelly is the stuff the dentist puts on your teeth. You can buy similar stuff from the pharmacy. I don’t know what the exact name is in English.
Read the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article. I’m not gonna explain it to you, unless you didn’t have any chemistry in high school.
Edit: actually, Wikipedia has better articles about this. Read the “overdose” section in this one instead. It’s pretty clear I believe.
I think you need to retake chemistry then, right now you’re the one spreading misinformation. The Wikipedia article is about a completely unrelated compound.
Maybe this one is more helpful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity?wprov=sfla1
Anyways, don’t trust random medical advice on Lemmy.
Yes, massive amounts of about anything is toxic. We’re not going to get that from municipal water or toothpaste.
Literally your link. I’m in my late 30s. I’ve only lived in places with Fluoride in the water my entire life, and both my parents and I have chosen to have regular fluoride treatments and fluoride toothpaste. I don’t need advice from Lemmy, if what you were saying were true I’d be dead decades ago.
As the other person said, everything will kill you if you have too much of it. Water can kill you if you drink too much. Either you believe some very incorrect things, or you’re a troll who is doing pretty well here getting us riled up.
this is nonsense.
you’re not suppose to eat/drink after brushing, esp anything acidic.
because you want the fluoride in the toothpaste to stay on your teeth. and it’s like 10-15m.
you are suppose to rinse your mouth. just like you rinse the flouride treatment at the dentist.
After a a treatment at the dentist you spit, not rinse.
you need to rinse to spit.
How long does the treatment sit on your teeth before rinsing?
flouride treatment? it was like 10-15m. then they took out the trays and you rinsed your mouth out. and they told you to not eat anything for 20m so the flouride had more time to absorb, because any friction on your teeth would scrap it off.
toothpaste also has fluoride and the idea is the same.
So you’re saying it sat on your teeth for 15 minutes prior to rinsing?
yes, that’s how ever flouride treatment I ever had worked… because your in a dentists office.
toothpaste isn’t a flouride treatment. it’s toothpaste.
So it’s safe to say there is some amount of time flouride should remain undisturbed on your teeth for best results.
Most toothpaste also contains flouride.
My dentist has never asked me to rinse my mouth with water after the flouride mouthwash (or the trays back in the day)
cool, mine tells me to rinse my mouth after everything. every visit i rinse my mouth like six times.
You may want to find out why.
https://staging.aapd.org/globalassets/media/publications/archives/stookey-08-02.pdf
There are studies from 40 years ago saying it’s a bad idea.